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,Click to edit Master title style,Click to edit Master text styles,Second level,Third level,Fourth level,Fifth level,*,*,*,C-C RIDER,A new concept for amateur satellites,Tom Clark,W3IWI,_,2003 AMSAT Annual Meeting,Toronto October,2003,1,Future Amateur Satellites=Microwaves,Need More Bandwidth for Modern Techniques,L-Band(1260 1270 MHz)is Uplink Only,S-Band(2400 2450 MHz)is a SEWER!,WiFi LAN,Bluetooth,Cordless Telephones,In-home TV Links,Microwave Ovens,The“sewer has seriously compromised the performance of AO-40.,2,THE SEWER(and BPL Too)!,3,United States Microwave Allocations,Amateur Service,Amateur-Satellite Service,Band(MHz),Bandwidth(MHz),Band(MHz),Bandwidth(MHz),1240-1300,60,1260-1270,10,2300-2310,2390-2450,10,60,-,2400-2450,-,50,3300-3500,200,3400-3410,10,5650-5925,275,5650-5670,5830-5850,20,20,10000-10500,500,10450-10500,50,24000-24250,250,24000-24050,50,means Earth-to-Space(uplink)direction only,(Thanks to W4RI for table),means Space-to-Earth(downlink)direction only,4,An Expanded Look at the C-Band(5.6 5.9 GHz)Microwave Picture,P3E,5,C-C Rider The Basic Concept,Single-band,In-band Transponder,Uplink:5650-5670 MHz,Downlink:5830-5850 MHz,Wide Bandwidth Available,Up to 20 MHz,Uplink&Downlink Share One Antenna,About the C-C Rider name:,C,-Band to,C,-band package to,RIDE,on future satellites,A famous Blues song written by Ma Rainey in the 1920s,6,Why C-Band?,If we dont use it,we will lose it!,This region of the spectrum is under,INTENSE,scrutiny by the commercial world.,It is the lowest frequency band that can support wide bandwidth links.,Digital Voice,Video,Multimedia,?,The paired Uplink and Downlink frequencies are a truly unique resource.,Amateurs need the challenge to develop new technology and not grow stagnant.,etcetera,7,But I have,NO,suitable C-band equipment now!,Nobody does!,We will need to develop the ground-based user hardware IN PARALLEL with the spacecraft hardware.,Leverage common technology,Most of the microwave components unique to our C-Band needs could be stamped out“Cookie Cutter for both spacecraft and ground use!,8,Some thoughts on progress.,Amateur Radio needs new horizons,What will your shack look like in 5-10 years?,Some words from the past:,1975:Stick with Mode-A-Mode-B is too advanced for amateurs.,1980:Dont publish satellite tracking software amateurs will NEVER have computers in their shacks,1986:Digital satellites are of no interest to amateurs stick with analog.,1988:DSP who needs it?Real men rely on LC and Xtal filters.,1998:Nobody will ever use the Model L/S hardware on P3D.Give us Mode-B.,1999:Only a few people will be able to copy the P3D PSK telemetry.,2001:Coding and FEC are too complicated to be used in satellite telemetry.,etcetera,9,C-C Rider The Basic Concept,10,A simple user terminal might look like:,Note that all the microwave widgets are the same as those used on the spacecraft,except that TX/RX ports are reversed.,11,Instead of using a dish,how about using a Phased Array of Patch Antennas:,Pointing data from the multi-channel receiver is used to point the transmitter.,watt C-band Ampscost about$10 from Hittite,12,To accommodate many types of users,the spacecraft might look something like:,This might be a Phased Array,13,And a Multi-Mode Ground User terminal might look something like:,This might be a Phased Array,14,INMARSAT:,A possible model for a C-C Rider user terminal?,Commercial Price is under$5000,Usable on Field Day&from apartment balconies.,15,Link Budget Estimates:C-C Rider on a LEO Platform,800 km orbit means path loss(both ways)175 dB,Satellite:assume 2W TX with 6 dBiC antenna on a“bent-pipe transponder,Ground User:assume 30 cm dish or 3x3 array of patches and 70K LNA,Link supports 64kb/s digital or 64 kHz analog,and proper application of coding could bring this up to 100 kb/s.,-,BUT:The user antenna has beamwidth 12 which needs to be pointed to 2-3.Satellite peak motion is/s.The antenna pointing makes this a bad choice.,However,the Doppler would only be like a satellite operating 180 MHz!,16,Link Budget Estimates:,C-C Rider on a GEO/GTO Platform,Assume satellite is at 36,000 km meaning path loss is 200 dB.,This means we need to pick up 25 dB over LEO!,Spacecraft:20 cm(3,)aperture or patch array gives 17 beam with 22 dBiC gain.,Spacecraft TX:5 W(or,W per patch),Ground:30 cm dish,70K LNA&10W TX,-,120 kb/sec bent-pipe or 600 kb/s with FEC&Coding&demod/remod on spacecraft.,17,Lets avoid this situation!Feedback Please.,The Classical Engineering us User 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